Looking for a bit of trailer advice...

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  1. kisertn

    kisertn What's an apex?

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    My situation is driving me towards purchasing a Kendon, or Kendon-like trailer. I need to be able to pull whatever I get with a Subaru Forester for the next 12 months (at which time I hope to get a vehicle that can pull 3500+ lbs and I'll sell whatever trailer I buy now). I have a '98 Durango now, which runs but it is a rust-bucket and so it is headed for the junk heap in a matter of weeks.

    My question centers on the Kendon trailers. They *REALLY* seem overpriced. But, so far, I have not found anything else I consider acceptable that is lightweight, will transport two sportbikes reliably, and instill minimal fear of loading and unloading. I've looked at that trailer some of you have from Harbor Freight and I just cannot fathom how you do not drop your bikes while loading/unloading. I just could not see myself ever being comfortable loading onto that thing.

    I have a 6x8 landscape trailer now that I have been pulling with my Durango. But since the Durango is going, so must this landscpae trailer as it is heavy (~850 lbs) I don't see pulling it with my Subaru (just too heavy - with bikes and trailer it would be ~1,500 pounds and I just think my Forester would be hard pressed to pull it.)

    Long-story-long, does anyone have any recommendations for a lightweight trailer solution that will cost significantly less than the $3,500 (trailer + tax/title/license/frieght) I am considering now, and isn't a danger to load? (sniff, I really wanted my enclosed Haulmark beavertail this year but if I bought it I'd have nothing to pull it with :-(

    -Neil
     
  2. r6boater

    r6boater Draik's Pit Crew

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    We pulled a 5x8 utility trailer sometimes with two bikes or a bike and a scooter, along with a full complement of track stuff...we pulled it with our vr6 vw jetta. Granted it was a manual transmission, it did an excellent job.

    We just used a run-of-the-mill, utility trailer like you'd buy from Lowes, HomeDepot, or tractor supply. We put 10s of 1000s of miles on them too, both a 5x8 and a 4x6, heavily loaded.
     
  3. mlap5150

    mlap5150 Rides with no training wheels

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    ^^I think i have the same. Mine's a carry-on brand 5x8 utility trailer. Perfect for bikes and it's light so the subaru should handle it. I picked mine up used but it looks like Lowes and tractor supply have them.
     
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  4. 934 TSX

    934 TSX I like bikes

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    Your Subaru will pull that fine. You won't feel any struggle really until about 250lbs. If you feel worries at all while underway, do 65 instead of 70 or 75. It will only take you a handful of minutes longer, and be much easier on the vehicle. You will be just fine with what you have.
     
  5. Mran556

    Mran556 Rides with no training wheels

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    I was at fleet farm yesterday and they had a 5x8 i think that was the size anyway.. was under 600 bucks and had the giant fold down ramp. Its not going to get cheaper or lighter than that with ease of loading... harbor freight trailers are fine there cheap too. i load mine with a 2x12 board which is plenty you just push the bike up and if therea 2 of you its even easier.
     
  6. gkotlin

    gkotlin What's an apex?
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    You get what you pay for. With a Kendon, you're looking at top quality materials. Excellent design. Etc. For a short term solution, I'd look for a steel wood topped trailer. Put two chocks on it. Then you'll have room for tires, bins, stands etc. on the trailer as well. If you search, you may find a nice used one. Sell it for what you pay for it in a year.
     
  7. kisertn

    kisertn What's an apex?

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    Did you perhaps mean "1250" lbs? I believe my current trailer is about 820 lbs. Two bikes and gear would be about 900 lbs. So, I'll be at the limit with the Forester as far as what it can pull. If I were to get a Kendon trailer I was also going to get a rooftop cargo box, but it will only hold 100lbs of gear.

    But, I do live in an area that is very flat, and yeah if I take it easy it should work I suppose. Would be nice to spend that buying a STT loyalty card instead :)

    This is what I have now -but I've always pulled it with my rust-bucket Durango. https://www.trailersuperstore.com/s...5-x-10-landscape-utility-trailer-wood-sides/#
     
  8. R6 Forever

    R6 Forever Need more Grattan

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    Ohhhh for sure that 5x10 with 2 bikes and gear the Subaru will not like.

    I was in the 5x8 open group. 1 bike and gear with a Neon.
    As others have noted the Kendon is not cheap for a reason. Don't know about knock-off versions.

    Good luck and start saving for an enclosed trailer.....:)
     
  9. JustinFRC

    JustinFRC track day backmarker

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  10. 934 TSX

    934 TSX I like bikes

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    I meant 2500 lbs.
    Those Suburu boxer engines are quite full of torque. The blow a Neon out of the water any day.
    People have grown to have a very warped idea on how much power is required to tow things these days. Of you want to pull a 10k trailer 85mph all day, then yes you need 450 ft lbs torque. Intelligent people don't pull such heavy items that fast. I once pulled a trailer weighing 12.5k with a 2000 Explorer with a 4.0l v6. It took a minute to get going, but I could do the speed limit fine (could not have dropped quickly to save man kind)
    I used to have a 90 GMC 1500. Pulled 5500lbs regularly. That truck was rated at 160hp, and 280ft lbs. You can pull 2k with that Suburu just fine.
     
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  11. sbk1198

    sbk1198 What's an apex?

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    You could pull 1500 lbs with a Forester easily! I had a little Mercedes C300 (RWD) and the manual says it's rated for 2700 lbs towing. You should see the shit europeans tow with hatchbacks and other cars that here in the US we'd raise an eyebrow if we saw someone pulling it with anything other than a truck. Don't expect to get more than like 17-18 mpg, but it can do it easily. With my C300 I was pulling about 900-1000 lbs, and I was getting up to 22 mph on the highway. It never even showed signs of struggle, only difference was going up hills it would have to drop 1 gear lower. If you just want a temporary small trailer, just keep what you have. Save yourself some money and hassle.
     
  12. R/T Performance

    R/T Performance found track bike
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    before I bought my enclosed we had a 5x8 carry on with the mesh floor and tail gate.
    We pulled it with a 4 cylinder cavailer convertible and than a Honda crv both with two bikes and gear.
    as long as you use you head if it feels like it is struggling down shift (auto or manual)
    if it's a long grade follow one those slow ass semi's to the top
    the caviler brought both bikes back from nc after my wife crashed on the charhola
    the crv went from mi to barber to nc and back
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  13. kisertn

    kisertn What's an apex?

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    Ok, I am convinced to try and use my current trailer with my Forester for now. I really didn't want to spend $3,500 on a trailer I didn't plan to keep, so this definitely is in line with that thinking.
    Early 2017 I plan to get an enclosed trailer and something to pull it with, but this year we're replacing the Durango and my wife wants a gas sipping runabout not a truck or tank. :-(

    Thank you all for your input. I did search the web looking for advice before posting but I wasn't quite seeing folks speaking to my situation. I very much appreciate your insights.
     
  14. Whitney Arnold

    Whitney Arnold Run it wide. The grass is a safe place.

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    I have a open trailer that I will sell you? $400, I will get pictures soon.
     
  15. kisertn

    kisertn What's an apex?

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    Also, I live just 30 miles for ACC and my first trackdays this year will be there. It's really flat between my place and ACC and so I'll let that be my test period before I decide to go further to Blackhawk, Gingerman, or Grattan. Hopefully my Forester can handle the flat terrain and mild inclines.
     
  16. 09Severin

    09Severin n00b

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    Forester towing capacity:
    2003-2013 2,400lbs
    2014-2016 1,500lbs
     
  17. kisertn

    kisertn What's an apex?

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    Yeah, mine is a 2001. I am told that I should be able to tow 2,000 lbs, although Subaru does not state that. But I've always been one to take tow capacity and halve it and consider that my personal maximum (no scientific reason, just my silly rule of thumb); obviously, I won't be able to do that in this case.
     
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    09Severin n00b

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    Took a shot in the dark, didn't see the year posted. But 1998-2002 is 2,000lbs. Like everyone else has said, drive smart and you will be just fine. Only had my Subaru for a short period of time and I loved it.
     
  19. sbk1198

    sbk1198 What's an apex?

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    A good rule to have. Tow ratings are kinda weird and there's a lot of liability involved there from manufacturer's. When I had that C300 I went to the local dealer to get a hitch receiver mounted on it and they wouldn't touch it. They said MB USA does not recommend to tow with that vehicle. Then later I find that MB Germany (the actual manufacturer) has a 2700 lb rating on it, but that was only found in the European version of the owner's manual, not in the American one.

    On the other hand, a lot of times ratings suggest that a vehicle will be able to tow that amount that it's rated for, but it doesn't mean it will be easy. My grand cherokee is rated for 6200 lbs, but after towing about 3000 (an enclosed 6x12 with 2 bikes and a bunch of other stuff), I don't think I want to push it anymore than that on long trips. At 70 mph it was running in 3rd gear most of the time at just under 4000 rpm. Not very good when you have to go like 8-9 hours. Aerodynamics is huge too! It's not just the weight. I'm hoping the new trailer I'm picking up Saturday will tow better because it's a low profile.
     
  20. r6boater

    r6boater Draik's Pit Crew

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    Remember, if it's automatic, tow with OD off.
     
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