Grattan Counter Clockwise Hard or Easy?

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  1. Snail

    Snail Rides with no training wheels

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    Hello there fellow motorcycle enthusiasts!!

    So I just signed up for 4/16 Grattan Counter Clockwise and have a couple quick questions for the snail newbies as myself and speedy wise track veterans.

    This will be my first time riding counter clockwise. I've ridden the track about 4 times. 3 days in Novice and one day in Intermediate day so I have tons to learn and grow from.

    Question 1 - Are the lines hard to learn in counter clockwise direction and how long does it take to learn?

    Question 2 - Will I need a tow from a coach?

    Question 3 - Are there any brake markers or anything on the pavement or track I need to keep an eye out for or be cautious of, in example in clockwise on final turn there's a patch that will give my bike a slight bucking sometimes.

    I'm not fast by any means. I looked through gopro footage after my last track day and my times are 1:33-1:35 I don't know if that helps with advice.

    Thank you all!!!
     
  2. Eric_Cell

    Eric_Cell Rides with no training wheels
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    1. In my opinion the track is easier to learn CCW simply from the fact that there are far fewer blind turns. As far as how long it takes to learn that varies from rider to rider bit you should be up to speed after a session or two but I suspect you'll learn something new each session out.

    2. Of course you won't NEED a tow from a coach but you will the track and the line more quickly if you ask for one. You'll also likely have more fun if you pick up the line from a coach in one of the first sessions and then spend the rest of the day fine tuning.

    3. Lots of brake markers and reference points on the track. Only thing I can tell you to look out for is not to get too close to the inside of 10A (the left handed before you go down the hill). There is a bit of a dip there and you will definitely wheelie out of it or possibly catch air.

    Hope this helps. I may be there this weekend but won't know for sure until later this week. Feel free to come find me and I'd be happy to give you a tow and go over my reference points with you.


     
  3. Snail

    Snail Rides with no training wheels

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    Thanks for all the advice Eric this is exactly what I needed!! I'll try to also watch some videos that always helps me and I'll be looking for you or another coach to get a tow.

    Rafi
     
  4. Ohio_1199DUC

    Ohio_1199DUC Knows an Apex when he sees one
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    +1. its a lot of fun gliding through the air but I haft to agree with Mr. Cell... Avoid going airborne on your first outing. Another area to note is the hump going into 5 CW will now be a ramp coming out of 5 CCW so be prepared to wheelie or... Catch air.
     
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  5. bigol9r

    bigol9r Rides with no training wheels

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    how is the bus stop ccw, its my first time ccw as well and I've been watching some video. in video it actually seems like its a little easier ccw but i am watching wera racing so they kinda make it all look easy lol.
     
  6. Snail

    Snail Rides with no training wheels

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    If playing Motogp 15 taught me anything going uphill on sharp slower corners always had more grip especially front end grip lol

    Rafi
     
  7. steve802cc

    steve802cc Knows an apex

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    Just be sure not to blow that corner on the brakes or there's a 99.9% chance of hitting the Armco.

    Other than that CCW is a lot of fun.
     
  8. NitroNick

    NitroNick WERA #125

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    My bike will have cameras for anyone that brings their laptops pc for Your bike videos at ccw grattan. Look for NitroNick*
     
  9. Boomer0369

    Boomer0369 Rides with no training wheels

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    Grattan CCW is the way I think the track should normally be run. I ran it last year CCW and just instantly felt "This is the way this track should run!!"
     
  10. finny47

    finny47 Rides with no training wheels

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    Treat CCW as if it were a new track. Ride at 80% the first two sessions to get comfortable, then start to turn up the pace.
     
  11. josh7owens

    josh7owens What's an apex?

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    Air Time?!

    Like this??



    I want in!
     
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  12. Boomer0369

    Boomer0369 Rides with no training wheels

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    That was a sweet video! Thank for sharing!
     
  13. steve802cc

    steve802cc Knows an apex

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    Not as high but people do get both tires off the ground in both directions :)
     
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    jowek70 Rides with no training wheels

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    Watching some videos on youtube I agree it looks like the track should be run CCW always.
     
  15. F4iGuy

    F4iGuy Rides with no training wheels

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    I agree that Grattan is better in CCW. Diving down the hill at the end of the straight is a blast and turns 7-6-5 open up more and more as you ride through CCW so you pick up speed which feels better than the course continually tightening when ran CW.
     
  16. steve802cc

    steve802cc Knows an apex

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    Wheelie cam. :)

     
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    Ohio_1199DUC Knows an Apex when he sees one
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    You coming this weekend Steve?
     
  18. steve802cc

    steve802cc Knows an apex

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    Maybe Sat but not sure. Bike's in pieces still.
     
  19. Ohio_1199DUC

    Ohio_1199DUC Knows an Apex when he sees one
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    as is mine. I will have it back together tonight I hope. I need to wet sand the clear coat and buff it, Install the Dzuz fasteners and then top off the radiator. Shoot! I still need to safety wire and install my throttle shims after all that... TIME IS RUNING OUT!
     
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