Toy Hauler pictures

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  1. ebart

    ebart Rides with no training wheels

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    I am trying to figure out the best way to set up my toy hauler. I have 2 pitbull TRS systems, might get a 3rd and would like to see how others have set up their campers. The area for the bikes is separate from the living area in the camper and I am thinking of putting 2 bikes in the back and one more forward in the middle of the storage area (8X11). The most I will have will be 3 bikes at one time but most of the time it will just be 2 bikes. The toy hauler will mainly be used as a camper with the occasional trip to the track and some trips loaded up with dirt bikes. Thanks in advance for any input
     
  2. VernLux

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    I can't help with the setup of the bikes, as I've only hauled two at a time, but here is something else to consider. You didn't mention whether the T.H. is a tow behind or a 5th wheel type T.H. but hopefully you do realize that putting that much weight in the back is going to reduce your tongue weight significantly if it is a tow behind, and will reduce the pin weight if it is a 5ver. There is not as much negative effect on reducing that weight on a 5ver, but there will be on a tow behind. When I had a tow behind T.H. and loaded up two bikes, toolbox, pit stands, popup canopy, spare tires/wheels, etc. it lightened my tongue weight so much that I had to add weight to the front of the trailer area. My tongue weight dropped slightly below the magical 10% of the trailer weight and I got a terrible sway problem when approaching 50 mph +. You may be totally aware of this issue, or you may have a 5ver T.H., but I thought I'd let you know in advance because the trailer will likely sway wildly if it's a tow behind.....even with a good W.D. hitch.........not so much on a 5ver. The only real way to know for sure on tongue or pin weight is to go to a CAT scale and weigh your setup. If you have any questions about that process, PM me and I'd be glad to help.
     
  3. ebart

    ebart Rides with no training wheels

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    Thanks for the info. I do have a tow behind and I am aware of the issue. That is another reason I was asking for information on how people set their bike area up. My T.H. is very heavy on tongue weight (about 15%) and it would help somewhat, but I will have to adjust my weight distribution hitch once I get it loaded. I have not used a CAT scale before but there is one right down the road from me and I was planning on using it to help set the hitch. I don't think one bike would be that much of a difference but 2+ would be a lot of weight. I appreciate the warning for sure, thanks
     
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    I'm going to post a link to a website that will probably help you tremendously for going to a CAT scale and weighing your setup. It involves doing three different weighs when you are there. Since you will be pulling your trailer there and already hooked up, the first weigh you will do is with the trailer (loaded as you would be when actually using it) and your W.D. hitch hooked up and tensioned as you think it should be. Get the weight, then go to the W.D. hitch and release the tension bars completely.....You do not have to remove them, just release the tension completely and push the button and tell them you want a re-weigh. Once that is complete, slowly drive off the scale, find a place you can totally disconnect the trailer from the truck (tongue jack down, wheels chocked, etc. When that is complete, drive across the scales again with nothing but the truck, and press the button and tell them you want another re-weigh.....truck only, and again, loaded like it would be if you were headed out to go camping/racing/whatever. Then go over and rehook to the trailer and go get your scale tickets....there will be three of them. The first weigh is like $11. Each additional re-weigh is $2, so you should owe a grand total of $15 for the three weighs.

    Here is the link.... https://fifthwheelst.com/ When you click on that link and the page loads, look at the top of the page and you will see "4 Step Weight Safety Plan". Click on that and make sure when you do your selection, you choose the instructions/worksheet for a tow behind trailer and NOT a 5th Wheel trailer. Step one will be doing the worksheet, Step two will be the actual weighing of the vehicles, Step 3 will be your personalized Weight Safety Report, and finally Step 4 will be a tire inflaction and load chart.

    I am in no way affiliated with this website and have zero connections to it other than I use it for figuring out what I've got and if I'm within all the specs for my truck trailer combination. It will also give you an exact tongue with if you do the process. Usually tongue weight is supposed to be in the 10-15% of the total trailer weight....which you will now know for sure. I've found that 10% is generally not enough. I hit the sweet spot on my previous trailer (the tow behind I had) at between 12.5-13%.....it towed good and I had no sway issues....but I did have to add weight to the front of the trailer when I was hauling two bikes and all of my trackday stuff.......and again, I hope this helps you.
     
  5. ebart

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    This is awesome, thank you very much
     
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    I forgot to say in my earlier post....CAT scales has an app for your phone that you can download. With the app, you don't even need to go into the truck stop/CAT scale office, everything is done with the app. You pay for it with a Credit card and all three weighs will either be send to you via email of into the app.....I can't remember exactly how it works, but a lot of folks use the app.

    You're welcome and I hope you get it sorted. There is nothing worse than white knuckle towing either because your tongue weight is too light and the trailer is swaying wildly, or being so heavy that you are in fear of overloading the truck with additional tongue weight. It pays to know exactly what you've got so that you can use the correct W.D. hitch and spring bars.
     
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    231F7C31-50AE-48DD-B44B-1864119C8B78.jpeg 8 ft trailer? Do 3 side by side all in the back...if just a trailer like mine which you don’t have after reading again...you will still have a living area in front of the trailer... It’s nice to still use rather than having to Unload to sleep or sit in your truck at the gate while waiting...even in a Camper just do all 3 side by side...
     
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    Here is how we have ours set up.. 3 wide the 3rd bike in the middles tail is actually between the other two. so the bars actually sit over the seat of the middle bike... where the tires are is actually where we fit the 4500W Yamaha genny and I cant see it but we keep the pit bike a honda elite scooter is on the right side using regular straps.
     

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  9. ebart

    ebart Rides with no training wheels

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    Awesome pictures, thanks TheRabbit and TLR67
     
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