I don't believe STT has banned them outright and didn't notice any specific mention of them in the STT website Policies & Procedures......however, I encourage you to think about it in a different manner. Knowing they are banned in other orgs/tracks/etc. for particular reasons, would you want to be the one who experiences an issue with a filter and puts oil down on the track possibly creating a hazard for yourself, as well as everyone else at the track? I've changed out the one that was on my bike and threw away the replacement I had. Ordered up some new Hi-Flo filters and I'm ready to go.
I have never had an issue with K&N oil filters and have read their recalls on the KN-204 model and certain code dates but nothing else has been officially published on its safety and they continue to manufacture and sell them. You would think they would be cautious in the liability they are exposing themselves to.
you would think.. but they are in the biz of making money and a Co as big as kn.. can afford it.. like pauly said we do not specifically ban them... but i as well would severely thinking about swapping to an OEM i have personally been at the track when they have failed.... and also was in a race where one failed an caused 8 bikes to pile up in less than 15 seconds.. i wouldn't want to be the dude that did that and caused the track to be down for a while. or worse
Don't be That Guy. There's obviously been enough of a problem it's not worth it. I had a few with no issues but I'm back to OEM and hose clamp.
K&n filters have failed at the welds from the filter to the front nut multiple times at our events......we have spent hrs cleaning the track because of this......i would use another brand
please look at using another filter not just do to long track clean up and the damage to others . But I seen a r6 kn filter leaked he crashed got back up and it tossed a rod through the block before he made it back to the pits. High flow or M1 or oem (Ps high flow manufactured the original kn before they out sourced to tawain)
Do you really want to be 'that guy'? No, no STT ban yet, but the staff has seen multiple failures that shut down the track for HOURS.
I compared the filter elements of the K&N and it looks like the $3 Fram paper filter or worst. I use OEM filters, they do have a big liability for their products. At least on my brand the OEM filters are used from Isle of Man events, AustralianSBK, BSB. Why trust some schmuck who wants to cut corners in safety just to make an extra cent? Should I trust them with their air filters?
So why doesn't STT ban them already??? If a guy shows up with K&N oil filters he passes tech correct? SMH
I had one fail on the street, it failed at the seal, not the nut. I always use my hand to tighten them. I now use Hi-Flo.
The one's I've seen failed at the seal (which could be because they tightened at the nut); STT hasn't banned (yet) because some riders (especially new riders) have no clue, and we realllly hate for them to pay their money and have to go home empty handed, so at the moment we are taking a good look and making polite warnings...
Well I think STT should ban them ASAP. If a rider with K&Ns has a failure and the oil causes a crash and someone to suffer severe injuries, you have 5 separate staff members on this thread basically testifying that the product is not safe and they have seen or are aware of incidents on the track because of them yet the organization continues to allow them. I think Briskman & Briskman would have a field day in court.
So the consensus is that K&N filters increase risk to life, limb, and/or property...right? I respectfully request that STT follow suit with other orgs and ban them outright. Communication would overcome the "newbies were unaware" issue.
Will never, ever use them again. Pulled mine off after second report I heard about, around 2 years back. (just put it on) It was a handy gimmick but with many different failures no way. Would also love to see them banned. Period.
We've had a Scotts reusable filter system blow apart years ago in a CCS race. Luckily the rider didn't go down and the oil was contained in the belly pan. Around the same time CCS banned Emgo filters for the same reason as K&N, them coming apart under race conditions. As for STT banning them, yes they should until K&N gets their act together (if they even care). This should be posted 1st thing on the sign up page in bold red letters. As for K&N, I never understood why people even use their stuff. If people would do some research on them before buying.... After seeing the damage done to an engine after using a K&N filter (stuff that gets through the K&N wouldn't get through a stock paper filter). Pretty cool to pull the filter out and see dirt and such on the INSIDE of airbox where there should be nothing.
Maybe we should ban Ducati's too, since they seem to blow motors on the track a lot.... If we want to start a 'ban' list, it could get long and complicated, as a lot of it is subjective. K&N's recall only included SOME filters...do we want to get that specific? Really, let the org make a decision when it feels it's necessary, rather than insinuate some kind of legal liability which helps nobody... PS. The above is my PERSONAL OPINION ONLY.
I'm with @tnskydivr. STT IMO is the safest org I've ridden with. If they see it's an issue I'm sure it will be address. Would think coaches would be yelling the loudest, there riding faster than most and have a vested interest making sure the track is safe to ride. Remembered a two stroke bike blow a oil tank seal, 5 guys went down. Closed the track for 3 hours while they cleaned up the mess. Should they be banned also. Threads like this should wake up forum members, and hopefully that is enough.