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STT GUY
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Wed May 20, 2009 2:38 pm
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| SlingBlade wrote: | | STT GUY wrote: | | SlingBlade wrote: | | Not really a shocker when you look at the timeframe, weather and list of things that had to be done. I just wish someone had been more forthright earlier in the process. |
We have been totally, 100% forthright.. Just like a doctor tells you a diagnosis based on the information he or she has at hand, we did the same. we were told that venue would be ready. In fact we could run next weekend but we'd need to do temporary "fixes" for barriers and some runoff.
I take offense to your comments that I have been anything but truthful with the flow of information. |
Not sure why you would be offended. My comment was that it was BMP, not STT, that was not forthright. Perhaps you should read my post again?
However, now that you bring it up. You did leave it too close to the wire for us that would have like to have made other arrangements by now.
If you are offended by that I'm sorry, but my words are intended as constructive criticism only.
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You used the term "someone". Thats pretty ambigous as I happen to be one of the "someones".
BMP has done the best that they can as well. I don't want to go into a zillion details but Brad busted his ass to try and pull this off and was still willing to do anything to make it work it's just that there were too many things that could go wrong and we were not willing to risk that.
Nobody misled anyone intentionally during this process, this I can absolutely assure you.
We'll enjoy the track in June>
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Brand-o
Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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Location: Lexington, Ky
Wed May 20, 2009 2:46 pm
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We'll enjoy the track in June |
BTW, I think it's statements such as these that cause people to feel like they're being misled.
I know from a business owner POV you want people to buy your product but based on the history of this track's progress it definitely appears misleading when you've made such definitive statements in the past.
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SlingBlade
Joined: 18 May 2009
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Wed May 20, 2009 2:50 pm
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| STT GUY wrote: |
Nobody misled anyone intentionally during this process, this I can absolutely assure you.
We'll enjoy the track in June> |
I'll take you at your word that it wasn't intentional. But when every other organization was cancelling events that were farther into the future, you can understand why we (the customer) would not understand why the decision to cancel came so late.
Have fun in June, it looks like it will be a great track!
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rug_burn
Joined: 03 Apr 2009
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Location: Florence, ky
Wed May 20, 2009 3:00 pm
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| SlingBlade wrote: | | STT GUY wrote: |
We'll enjoy the track in June> |
Have fun in June, it looks like it will be a great track! |
i doubt if this happens but here's to wishful thinking...I seriously hope they can pull it off this time.
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bryanboonern
Joined: 02 Dec 2008
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Wed May 20, 2009 3:20 pm
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| Brand-o wrote: | | STT GUY wrote: |
We'll enjoy the track in June |
BTW, I think it's statements such as these that cause people to feel like they're being misled.
I know from a business owner POV you want people to buy your product but based on the history of this track's progress it definitely appears misleading when you've made such definitive statements in the past. |
I agree. Sorry, but the trust is really slim right now. These are some of the things you stated, only to have the date cancelled.
| STT GUY wrote: | We will know the status Monday AM on the WOW event. I have no concern about the end of May event but the WOW event is stressing me.
The enod of May event "is a lock and will go as scheduled."
Bluegrass management and ownership assures us will allow our May 30 & 31 events to proceed as scheduled.
I'll be there riding on the 30th and 31st.......
The event at the end of May is a go!!! |
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Freddy
Joined: 12 Feb 2008
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Wed May 20, 2009 3:39 pm
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Where's the emoticon of the guy eating popcorn!!??
This is getting good. 
Can't we just all get along. I'm sure Bluegrass has added alot of grey hair this year.
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STT GUY
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Wed May 20, 2009 3:41 pm
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| bryanboonern wrote: | | Brand-o wrote: | | STT GUY wrote: |
We'll enjoy the track in June |
BTW, I think it's statements such as these that cause people to feel like they're being misled.
I know from a business owner POV you want people to buy your product but based on the history of this track's progress it definitely appears misleading when you've made such definitive statements in the past. |
I agree. Sorry, but the trust is really slim right now. These are some of the things you stated, only to have the date cancelled.
| STT GUY wrote: | We will know the status Monday AM on the WOW event. I have no concern about the end of May event but the WOW event is stressing me.
The enod of May event "is a lock and will go as scheduled."
Bluegrass management and ownership assures us will allow our May 30 & 31 events to proceed as scheduled.
I'll be there riding on the 30th and 31st.......
The event at the end of May is a go!!! |
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I bolded what I based my statements on. I have this crazy habit of beleiving in folks. It bites me in the ass now and then but it has served me very well over the years and I'll most likely keep it as my mantra.
Do you really think I like taking a many thousands of dollars hit on every cancellation? Seriously, we loose $2800 hard cash money on a sold out cancellation, not to mention tens of thousands of opportunity dollars. Then we turn around and offer a couple of events at substaintially below our cost as a way of trying to make it up to our customers.
Aside from the money we HATE disappointing YOU our members worst of all.
I still beleive in Bluegrass and we'll have some fun time there!
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STT GUY
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Wed May 20, 2009 3:48 pm
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| Freddy wrote: | Where's the emoticon of the guy eating popcorn!!??
This is getting good.
Can't we just all get along. I'm sure Bluegrass has added alot of grey hair this year. |
I don't screw around when someone says or insinuates that I or Bonnie intentionally mislead them...or anyone, I take it very seriously. It's not fun and it's not games. If you know me you know I have a pretty over the top sense of humor but this isn't the time to use it. Sorry.
No back to our regularly scheduled BBS.
EDIT...... I'm sorry guys (and gals) this is really disappointing to me too. We have done everything we are able to obtain accurate info, pass it along and keep everyone in the loop if there is a change. I also think we have kept our members best interests in mind on this 30/31 cancelation.
I am just, if not more disappointed than anyone and when my integrity is called out I get my skivvies in a knot. Who would possibly want to go through this intentionally? Think about it. To even insinuate that this is intentional is in my opinion silly.
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John.CrowellStaff
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Location: Frankfort, KY
Wed May 20, 2009 3:59 pm
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Hey, would you guys lay off Monte. He is doing the best he can with the information he has to work with. I am sure track management is in the same boat. Everyone wants the track to open.....just be patient, I am local to this track and I am just thankful that it WILL at some point be open.
Didn't your Mommy's ever tell you "Good things come to those who wait?"
With any type of start-up there is always some type of delay/s, so, you guys should have had fall-back plans in place 
Stop pointing the blame finger and just click on another track for that weekend.
Rant off....
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600dubbar
Joined: 03 May 2009
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Wed May 20, 2009 4:03 pm
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| Brand-o wrote: | | STT GUY wrote: |
We'll enjoy the track in June |
BTW, I think it's statements such as these that cause people to feel like they're being misled.
I know from a business owner POV you want people to buy your product but based on the history of this track's progress it definitely appears misleading when you've made such definitive statements in the past. |
i agree.... however its good to keep thinking positive if thats what that is 
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bryanboonern
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Wed May 20, 2009 5:14 pm
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| STT GUY wrote: | | Freddy wrote: | Where's the emoticon of the guy eating popcorn!!??
This is getting good.
Can't we just all get along. I'm sure Bluegrass has added alot of grey hair this year. |
I don't screw around when someone says or insinuates that I or Bonnie intentionally mislead them...or anyone, I take it very seriously. It's not fun and it's not games. If you know me you know I have a pretty over the top sense of humor but this isn't the time to use it. Sorry.
No back to our regularly scheduled BBS.
EDIT...... I'm sorry guys (and gals) this is really disappointing to me too. We have done everything we are able to obtain accurate info, pass it along and keep everyone in the loop if there is a change. I also think we have kept our members best interests in mind on this 30/31 cancelation.
I am just, if not more disappointed than anyone and when my integrity is called out I get my skivvies in a knot. Who would possibly want to go through this intentionally? Think about it. To even insinuate that this is intentional is in my opinion silly. |
I don't think you intended to mislead anyone. I am not trying to point fingers, only to get accurate information. I really want to know what is going to happen in June. I don't really care about the past or even May its just that I don't know what to believe. It was stated as if a done deal that May was going to happen. Then it was cancelled. I am sure everyone would have been perfectly ok and understanding if you said, "I am not sure if it will happen as a lot of things have to take place, but we are hopeful." But instead it was stated as fact. Now it is being stated as fact that the June date will happen, and I am trying to determine if it truly is or just an empty promise. If you are not sure, just say so. If you know it will happen, then great and I will trust you. See you in June.
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Freddy
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Wed May 20, 2009 5:26 pm
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| STT GUY wrote: | ...It's not fun and it's not games. If you know me you know I have a pretty over the top sense of humor but this isn't the time to use it. Sorry.
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Sorry Monte, just trying to lighten things up a bit. I'm sure it's stressful.
I'm good at trying to make jokes at the wrong times.
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SlingBlade
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Wed May 20, 2009 5:26 pm
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Wed May 20, 2009 7:56 pm
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thats the entrace, the guy is pulling legs with that....or he's an idiot. many of my friends are down there just about everyday putting tire walls together.
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STT GUY
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Wed May 20, 2009 9:04 pm
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| John.CrowellStaff wrote: | Hey, would you guys lay off Monte. He is doing the best he can with the information he has to work with. I am sure track management is in the same boat. Everyone wants the track to open.....just be patient, I am local to this track and I am just thankful that it WILL at some point be open.
Didn't your Mommy's ever tell you "Good things come to those who wait?"
With any type of start-up there is always some type of delay/s, so, you guys should have had fall-back plans in place
Stop pointing the blame finger and just click on another track for that weekend.
Rant off.... |
Leave me be... save yourself while you still can... run for it!!!
I'm ok, I understand some folks need to vent, it's a stress reliever.
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