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Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:52 pm
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[I am much happier in I than I was in Novice... even though I am "slower" in the straights due to my old bike I seem to find a lot of the same guy in the turns...[/quote]

I'm also running a Hawk in Intermediate...mostly Monticello & Pocono. I've brought the bike up to SV specs for the cost of a first gen SV!!! I-4's still get me on the longer straights, but work uncertainty rules out a faster bike this season.
The most important thing is to be in the game. This season's $$$ will go into track days instead of a new bike.

Jim B
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:47 pm
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I would echo exactly what the coaches here have said. I ran my first season in Novice before being told by one of the coaches to bump up. Even then, running "I" is a whole new experience. Terry pointed out the obvious ... you are now the one in control. Or at least you should be. It's a head game picking out your own brake markers/turn in points/etc. I then spent my 2nd season running "I" and probably only ran without a coach for half a dozen sessions. Two things stand out to me on that point ... 1) the coaches LOVE to have someone wanting to work with them and asking questions. 2) There's always one available.

For those of you that want to treat this as a race, do us all a favor and stay home. Track days are an opportunity to learn to ride the bikes like they were designed for in a safe environment. When you begin to think that speed is the only difference between N and I, you make yourself a danger to everyone else around you. I think back to a track day at Road America two seasons ago. Watching Kevin Schwantz blow away the lead N instructor (you know who you are) on a 250 vs. a 1000 put a lot of things into perspective. Speed comes from being smooth, smooth comes from working at it.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:59 am
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Grin - the funk-master is wise, btw bro where we going to see you this year?
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Matt Bomber.Staff



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Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:07 pm
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The problem with moving people from Novice to Intermediate is STT allowes a limited amount of people in groups. Not to over crowd the track. Sometimes we get people who want to ride I or A but the groups are full, so they sign up for Novice hoping to get the bump. Thats not fair to anyone!!! We in the Midwest do not normally allow bumb ups out of N because of this reason. So you get the A or I rider who runs novice and is nothing but problems all day and makes it no fun for anyone. All we coaches want to do is make everyones track day as enjoyable as we can. SO please come talk to us, ask questions and if we don't have an anwser we will find someone who does.
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Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:32 am
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Moto_joe wrote:
Moving up to I is less about speed, and more about having good track etiquette, knowing how to pick out and maintain good lines, and being smooth and PREDICTABLE at all times. If you feel you can do all of the above, and do so at a decent enough pace, go ahead and give I a go. If you "need" moving down, someone will make sure you do.


Bump, Moto is right on!
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And I'll add to Bomber's post ... he's one of the best coaches I've worked with. I would say he's hard to miss out there, but he's pretty damn fast, so sometimes it's possible. Very Happy

Just listen for the Ducati coming up from behind you and grab on. Then ask him questions. He may not be wrapped real tight in a lot of aspects, but the guy knows how to ride.
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