Can a TTX EC be converted back to manual?

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  1. Allen

    Allen Rides with no training wheels

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    Can a TTX EC be converted back to manual? I would think it's pretty easy for a pro to do, so I went ahead and jumped on this:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/301498024986

    It seemed like a great deal so whatever, I'll risk it! Anyway, is there also a way to know if the ad is correct and its really a 2014? What I mean is, if it's a '14 then it probably wouldn't need any kind of servicing, as opposed to say a '12 which would need it, right? Or, should I get it serviced anyway even if it is a '14 since it will probably need sending somewhere to switch the adjusters back to manual?

    Thanks for any help!
     
  2. Derick

    Derick Rides with no training wheels

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    not sure about the conversion. Call Thermosman he will give you a definitive answer. As for the service, do you know how much it has been used, do you really trust the seller that much? At a minimum, forks and shocks should be refreshed once a year
     
  3. Healea-Coil

    Healea-Coil Rides with no training wheels

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    Yes. You need to buy the knobs. Call Matt Carr at Ducati Indy. They have done several. I think the knobs are about $200... Remove servos and service.
     
  4. Healea-Coil

    Healea-Coil Rides with no training wheels

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    And so you know... The R is the exact MKI TTX as the 1199S. The MKII used by the racers is essentially the same thing but has a different body.

    You are also getting the carbon shield which is an 1199R only part or ordered from Ducati Performance Parts.

    Really solid price... But you will have to get the shock serviced to remove the servos. So, you are going to pay almost as much had you just purchased a MKII...
     
  5. JBowen33

    JBowen33 Rides with no training wheels

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    Not to jack the thread but is that really necessary every year.... Have had my Ducati for about 3 years and have ran a good amount of track days on her and never had any issues with not "refreshing". Sorry I'm a noob still when it comes to this stuff. Never really had to upgrade anything due to the nature of the ducafi pretty much coming "track ready" so I'm still learning
     
  6. Allen

    Allen Rides with no training wheels

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    Nah... Even if it costs $550 to have it serviced plus valves, that only puts me at $1000, plus it comes with the flat rate linkage which is like another $250. I've got a used ride height adjust coming for another $75, so I'd say I'm coming in way under $1450 for just the shock.
     
  7. Dave608

    Dave608 Let's Ride!
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    Yes, even though you may not feel any degradation yet (although some has surely occurred), the oil in that shock is getting dirty and abrading internal parts. If you let it go long enough you will be paying for a rebuild instead of a refresh as in you will be replacing internal components that no longer work properly.

    I have my shock serviced at least twice a year personally due to the smaller oil volume in a shock versus the forks.
     
  8. steve802cc

    steve802cc Knows an apex

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    It would really depend on how many miles you've run and how hard they were or how fast you are. Obviously a really fast guy would need to have suspension cleaned more often.

    With that being said after three years I'd do it just for the peace of mind. Hell I would do it every year just for the peace of mind along with new brake fluid new brake pads and tires etc., it's a maintenance item.

    Here's something I posted a couple years ago, seems relevant.

     
  9. steve802cc

    steve802cc Knows an apex

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    DOH apparently I should refresh my page more often.

    Ya what Dave said.
     
  10. jkraft

    jkraft wrench'n racer

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    Just an FYI, new DU340, TTX GP 12-15 1199 is $1150.
     
  11. Healea-Coil

    Healea-Coil Rides with no training wheels

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    There ya go! No way he is getting that used shock, knobs, serviced and the right calving not to mention he NEEDS to change the spring rate for track and not just buy a TTX MKII.

    Good price!
     
  12. Allen

    Allen Rides with no training wheels

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    Damn! That is a lot less than what I've been seeing. Well, it's done now. I'm going to GMD Computrack next Saturday and they are going to send it back to Ohlins for me. They've(Ohlins) already told me it's $139 to exchange the servos for knobs, and Kent will decide whatever else it needs. So right now I'm at $520 for the shock and the parts for the flat-rate linkage(the 899 Pani has a non-adjustable variable rate linkage). I've been told by a guy on the 889 Panigale forums that his total cost from Ohlins was only $340 including a new spring, electric/manual conversion, and something something valve stack(?), though that seems a little too good to be true. I'll post up a final price when I find out and my impulse buy will either be vindicated, or it will serve as a PSA of what not to do. Either way, I'm fuckin' psyched!

    Also going to do the Racetech gold valves for the BPF forks. No money spent or final decisions made there yet either, so if anyone has any input it would be greatly appreciated!
     
  13. Allen

    Allen Rides with no training wheels

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    Just an update for anyone who might be looking to save a few $ on ebay... My original cost was $520 for the TTX EC and the new linkage. It turned out that the cost of the manual adjusters was $139, $150 for the rebuild, $10.80 for shock oil, $80 for labor, and an even swap for the correct spring for my weight, so it was right at about $900 for the shock and new linkage. I'm happy with the deal, though i suppose it was a little risky buying off of a wreck. Anyway, these are the relative prices for anyone who might be going this route.
     
  14. Healea-Coil

    Healea-Coil Rides with no training wheels

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    There's a new updated shim stack that you didn't get that you really should. Also, what rate spring did you end up going with?

    What is your weight and what rate did they suggest? This is VERY key to these bikes... You should have ended up with a lighter rate spring than stock...
     
  15. Ohio_1199DUC

    Ohio_1199DUC Knows an Apex when he sees one
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    Darn, I was late to the game on this one... I could have sold you a module to run the servos... Ehh oh well.
     
  16. Allen

    Allen Rides with no training wheels

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    I'm 225 in gear and we went with a 600lb spring. I know it sounds stiff but we measured and measured, and in the end I choose to defer to his judgement. He also said it has a new shim stack, so I'm not sure if it includes the update or not.

    The bike really does feel totally different now. He lengthened the forks(not sure how much, maybe 15mm?) so front ride height is +10mm, swingarm pivot height is +14mm, wheelbase is +2mm, trail is +1mm(will reduce to +.5mm with tire wear), and swingarm downslope is +2*. There's only been one day of decent weather since having it back, which was a sunday so churchgoers and cops were everywhere, but man it felt sharp the few times i could get on it!
     

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