Hey guys, I was wondering how you big litre bike riders keep up with the smaller 600s on the tracks like Little Tally and Blackhawk farms. Is it simply not possible unless your skill is way higher or what? I noticed at blackhawk (when chasing 600s and an FZ-08) that out of a corner they would get more drive by shifting up probably into 3rd, and then they could just use engine braking in most corners, where I had to hit the brakes. I was in 2nd gear most of the day (obviously shifting into 3rd and 4th on the straights) on my ZX10, and I juts wasn't getting the power out of the corner that they were. To eliminate obvious answers: Yes I was hitting the apex correctly, and yes my BP was proper coming out of the corner. Do I just need to throttle on more? Any help would be great!
its possible .. im way faster on my r1 than i was on my old r6 at any track .. the handling on the r1 feels no different than my old r6 also, very flickable ... choose lower gears if ur lacking power .. stay in the high rpm's
All track dependent IMO.... Even at Barber my best times were on my 600 almost ten years ago... Yes the new 1000's handle better these days but you still can't give them everything you got like a fatass on a 600.. I think I am going to get another 600 in the near future...
That's what I noticed about 600s. You can really just ring em out. And referencing the high RPMs, I know this and was banging out 2nd gear and just didn't get the same pull. I feared that 3rd gear would be too low RPMS
Wait... I'm confused. I just whack the throttle and let god and traction control sort that sh*t out. #600eater Little tally however taught me how to spin up the rear and not feel afraid to do it.
Spin up the rear? What do you mean? I'll be at Tally on the ZX10 soon and I'll want to keep up with my boys on their 600s!
Thats awesome, but now I want to know how he did it. Obviously, the rider matters. But I know for a fact that I personally would've been faster at BHF if I had been on a 600 vs the litre.
By twisting that handle on the right handle bar the right amount at the right time and by squeezing the lever on the right at the precise time and amount. That simple
Its skill man. Theres not a magic sequence of buttons that enables raped ape mode. If your asking how to be fast practice, practice, and more practice. It really is that simple
Not asking how to be fast. I definitely feel fast for how long I've been riding and been on the track and I know practice is key. I'm just referring to how I saw my 600cc friends come out of corner, shift into 3rd, and blast away from me while I'm in 2nd. Wondering whether I should be shifting up as well, get better positioning than them out of the corner, throttle more, etc.
More than likely if a decent 600 is pulling you coming out of the turn, you are: A. Geared too high B. In too high of a gear for good drive out of that corner. The thing that you may already know, but won't hurt to reiterate is that when you drop down into let's say first gear coming out of the corner (to get the RPMs up), you had better be buttery smooth on the throttle application, or have the riding skills to power out, spinning the rear and leaving a blackie. Just curious, since it's been 5 or 6 years since I've owned a liter bike.....what is the top speed at just shy of the rev limiter in first gear? As I recall, most of the liter bike are approaching 90 to 100 mph in first at the limiter.
So maybe change my sprockets? Because I was at BHF banging second gear out and I definitely did not want to drop into 1st to get more drive.
Years ago I had a 2004 CBR1000RR and I went up three teeth on the rear sprocket to get better drive out of some of the corners. IIRC, that bike would top out around 87-88 mph in first gear at the rev limiter. Some of the slower corners at various tracks was painful to try and drive out of until the gearing change. You just have to find out what works best for you and YOUR riding style.....how much lean angle you have when you start applying throttle, tire grip, smoothness with the right wrist, corner exit speed, etc.