That's the exact same line I get, just on the other side. It's my "ok we're upright enough, time to go W.O.T!" line :woot:
I've never seen it so dark before. Or that high up. I know my lean angle was less because of my uncomfortability but geez lol. I was 2 seconds quicker so I guess lean angle isn't everything.
I'm slow and I'm not pushing as much as I know I can. That pic I believe is after one day at Putnam. I was sliding out of 7 and out of 8. But it was very predictable. After that I did ACC north and I was sliding out of 2 and out of 6. But again, it was a nice and smooth slide. It was around 85F at both tracks.
I think that actually made things worse. Dot street tires are good only to a certain temp. I'm sure you can get some more info from some experts here.
Okay I know this is gonna start trouble but you won't have that feeling on a Dunlop Q3 they are rock solid and NEVER feel like they are sliding. I run them at 30F/23R oh yeah and this is what my wear looked like after two days in the mid 90's at Heartland Park in Topeka Kansas. This whole thread is part of the reason I have not tried the Michelins at the track. They always felt nervous for lack of a better word at turn in and just never gave me that planted feel. I tend to be a little ham fisted though and Michelins like smooth.
^^^ No, they just slide a little more until you realize that they're sliding too much. That's what people like best about the Michelins: The progressive feel through the operating range. They don't just all of the sudden let go. When I put all the factors in your situation together, including the very high heat and low temperature, I really feel that you could have benefitted from a higher rear pressure. The low pressure was simply putting more flex and heat into the carcass, and the high track temp was doing the same from the outside. That much heat will get these tires sliding in a hurry! -Tom
I am not sure if any of this was directed towards my comments regarding Dunlop Q3's but I will say that I started at higher pressures in on Saturday in the rear and the pressure and temps were all over the place. Whether anyone cares to believe it or not when I dropped my pressure 2-3 degrees in the rear the psi gain and temperature coming off track became more consistant. That being said I never feel sliding and that may be because I usually only run my tires for 3 track days and then sell them. For me it is cheaper to put fresh tires on than repair the bike or myself because I was trying to get every penny out of my tires. Maybe I do not have the pace to over ride these Q3's ??? Not sure about that statement but I do know that I test their traction on the exit of corners as James Hammon said I was leaving blackies exiting corners as it spun up a bit. As far as e AMA take offs are concerned I personally would not be interested in those. I see a lot of guys running FULL blown race tires for trackdays because hey want the confidence they offer as far as grip. What most guys do not get is at if you do not have the pace to keep the heat in those tires they are just as dangerous as a street tire being over ridden.
Supersport vs Cup Hey, did you take a look at this thread? Supersport vs Cup http://www.sttforum.com/showthread.php?t=13305 David Grey has some advice in there and IL8PEX has a good explaination as well.
Yes, I read it. I never read the whole thing before I went out and rode though due to me being in training for a week. It seems I need to play with tire pressures and get a good feel. IL8APEX I really appreciate all the help you've thrown in. I know it must be frustrating when there is a thread just about exactly the same situation. I have my first WERA race next month at Tally and I'm nervous as it is so I just want everything to be perfect. I really appreciate it guys. I'm going to look into getting my rear shock refreshed and keep better notes on tires.