Wobbles

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  1. puterteaspoon

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    In July I rode in the novice group at CMP,my second track-day,and had a blast incorporating what I've learned so far.I found it difficult to adjust body position before a curve without upsetting the front suspension.the bike is a 2011 FZ8 with stock suspension.It is not adjustable.To continue using this bike on track,what can i do other than staying light on the bars?I'm not placing all the blame on the hardware.I tried to adjust smoothly but,even my suit dragging across the seat caused the wobbles.Otherwise I was picking myself off the seat and plopping down in position.Less wobble but, still the wobbles:cry:
     
  2. skypatcorbin

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    I'm not a pro by any means, but i would suggest:

    1. Check your tires. Are the tires fresh/similar wear/no flat spots? Are you running tire pressures appropriate for the track and tire type?

    2. Check your wheels. Is there any damage to the wheels? Are the wheels balanced?

    3. Check the suspension. Is the suspension damaged in any way? Have you serviced the suspension within the recommended service interval? Even if you can't adjust preload (which you might be able to on your bike) you can check your sag and see if you need different springs or not. At the least, on your next track day go and see the suspension guy and see if he/she can help you.

    Google "motorcycle sag"
    Hope this helps.
     
  3. Derick

    Derick Rides with no training wheels

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    set up earlier. Instead of waiting for the corner to set up, if you know its a right hand corner, get your body in the position it needs to be long before the corner. Then all you need to worry about is braking and shifting. For instance, one particular track I ride, corners 6a, 6b, 7, and 1 are all right hand corners, I set up just after turn 5 and that doesnt change until turn 2
     
  4. TLR67

    TLR67 Cheers!
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    Bingo.... At CMP there is no place no place.....and no place where you should be sitting in the middle of your seat... ALWAYS stay to the corner side of it... Setting up prior to the turn will take out half the equation...

    I was told only Road America and the back stretch at Road Atlanta are the only places to utilize your seat in the center... And this was from a very good source btw.....

    Go do the Speed Academy... :thumb:
     
  5. puterteaspoon

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    Thanks for the advice.The more I learn the better it gets and everything suggested leads to more learning and more FUN!I thought the speed academy was for more advanced riders but,it sounds like it may be a better\quicker path to learning.If I can't smooth the wobbles,I know I can't advance as a rider.looking forward to smoother track days ahead and if things get FASTER as a result..well...that's the icing on the cake!
     
  6. TLR67

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    The Speed Academy is for any level for a TD Rider or Racer... Jason, Brian and Tracy do a phenmenal job and you will get more 1-1 and riding education than you could imagine. Money well spent or should I say Invested....

    Marc
     
  7. Booma

    Booma What's an apex?

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    Try the "knee to knee" technique.

    This a great way to keep the bike stable when transitioning from side to side. The idea is the stay connected to the bike via your knees against the tank.

    Example:

    Your in a L turn and hanging off the L side. Before you start to move your body to transition, bring your L knee back to the tank then start to transition over. So before any body movement side to side you will have BOTH knees connected to the tank. The added advantage is that it helps you move side to side since you can press your knees against the tank to leverage over. Staying connected this way will reduce any wobble associated with picking yourself up and flopping back down.

    You can use this at the end of the straight too. You will be squeezing tight on the tank with both knees so that you can keep your arms bent and with less force on your wrists. As you get ready for turn in, use your knees to lever your lower body off the side of the seat.

    I used to really upset my bike before I started using this technique and it dramatically helped me stay smooth and wobble free in the transitions.
     
  8. J-moges

    J-moges Rides with no training wheels

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    This helped me a lot with body position in general. You also won't be as rushed so you can concentrate better on your braking going into a corner. At CMP out of a carousel keep your butt off to the side, bring your head back over until you get to turn 8 and want to set up. Out of 8 keep the butt off still until after the kink then slide over for T10, etc. Keep going to the novice classes, eventually the "Body, brake, lean, believe" thing will get drilled in. The only thing I've worked on in my last 3 trackdays was my body position and corner setup, 3rd gear drill all day at the last one, minimize what you have to worry about. Should be almost muscle memory now
     
  9. Derick

    Derick Rides with no training wheels

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    I do a lot of things early. For me its setup, downshift, brake, turn. I actually get all of my downshifts done before I even start braking. Then all I have to do is focus on braking/turning, which happens at the same time.
     
  10. puterteaspoon

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    Great input on this subject.It's gonna be hard to wait for the next track day and a shot at trying out/exploring suggestions.I plan to stay at CMP for another track day or two before exploring other tracks.No more STT days there this year but planning on riding with P.R.E. in November...if I can wait that long,and with STT in 2015.Much easier to learn on a familiar track I think.
     

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