I actually think that this is exactly what people would love to see, including myself. A mano y mano fight between Lorenzo and Rossi in the last race of the season. I would love to see the other riders give him a green light to the front, I mean sh*t, Lorenzo would still have like a 1- 2s lead over him at that point. I was reading an article with remarks from a wide variety of MotoGP riders past and present and there were some interesting points. Giacomo Augostini thought MM was purposely trying to upset Rossi's race, but also that it has happened in the past (I guess Loris Caparossi won a championship when a bunch of Italian riders ganged up against another rider about to take the title). The point he made was that a rider can do whatever he wants out there if he's not breaking any rules. Now, I still think it's sh*tty of MM to do it, but like someone else said, maybe he's thinking that's one less title for him to have to win to beat Rossi's record. If it's a riders prerogative to block a rider without breaking any rules, then it can be that same riders prerogative to let him past if they feel Rossi got screwed and they feel it should be a riding battle between him and Lorenzo. I mean shit, he's still have the battle of his life just to catch, much less pass JL, DP, and MM. Anyway, it would make for a much more interesting final race of the season to see Rossi battling up front. At least he has nothing to lose and will have to go balls to the wall.... Come on Rossi! Suck it up!!
MM didn't break any rules that is for sure, it sucks he chose to make VR his target and upset the championship. VR didn't HAVE to get 3rd place or do what he did and lose his cool. He should have stuck behind MM and pipped him at the line for 3rd; that would have showed his true craftiness and talent and given the big FU to MM.. Oh well, lets not dwell on the past and hope that Valencia is a GREAT race (albeit a bit handicapped for VR) If the other riders decide to let VR by, I certainly wouldn't turn off the TV and I would respect them for doing it
Yes what you are saying is true, however I think they are still 2 entirely different acts. It is very petty and childish to excessively fight but to allow someone on a faster bike to fly past and give people the fight they want shows respect for the sport and the championship battle. I don't think that Rossi finished below 5th all season (maybe 6th?). If MM/Honda/Dorna thinks they can make the MGP go the way they want through shady riding and 'demanding' punishments to fit what they think is fair, I think all the riders should show them that they wont take it. Regardless that neither tactic "breaks the rules", I think the mentality behind each action are polar opposites. At the end of the day, I want to see the best riders (Rossi and JLo at the moment) to battle it out each race to the best of their potential, uninhibited. I don't want part of the sport to become "what if the other rider doesn't him to win and stays back to let Rider X get away because he hates Rider Y ". Of course, if MM was in contention for the championship, none of this would be happening.
I wish I were! I'll be at Road Atlanta this weekend and then JenningsGP in December to finish out 2015. Was at Barber in September, beautiful place! Now I'm jealous....
On one hand, this would be nice. On the other hand, no point in Jorge participating since he's guaranteed to lose the championship. Now, if the winner gets 5 points for every second they win by, then great. But all that has to happen is that every rider other than Lorenzo and Rossi to pull out of the way and Jorge loses. If that were to happen, I'd immediately go to the pits if I were Jorge and call it a year. Why risk life and limb when the results are predetermined?
At this point, I'm over it. The last race will be exciting to watch no matter what happens. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. This season was great until this unfortunate turn of events but I bet next season will be even more exciting! Yes, we're all mad for our own reasons but MotoGp is the shit! WSBK is gonna be cool next season as well with Hayden and Jacobsen representing the US and hopefully MotoAmerica produces some talent in the next couple years. The time of crying is over and it's time to move forward.....
Only tired of all the bickering, not GP. Can't wait to see the final race because it's not over yet. A champion has yet to be crowned in GP and Moto3. It's gonna be an interesting race!
That is not entirely true. Anything can happen. Although unlikely, either Rossi or JLo could go down and the championship would swing to the other. Rossi is still willing to go out when Marc predetermined the points for the last few races, Rossi has a strong chance to lose this because of all the shenanigans... but he is still willing to go out. I would die with laughter if JLo lost the front end making an easy pass on Marc.
I just meant the riders who Rossi will pass anyway, not the 4 top riders. Obviously they're not going to hand him the race. It would just be nice to see him up front battling with JL, MM, DP...
OMG... that video is hilarious. I can't wait for Valencia! I DON'T think it's safe to assume the outcome! Really, anything can happen... at least that's why I'll be on the edge of my seat to watch. BUT - I'm at Road Atlanta this weekend, so I don't want to hear ANYTHING about the race until I get home to my DVR. If somebody spoils it for me on Sunday, you'll see ME get twisted!
Well, I was only responding to the scenario where everyone just effectively pulled over except for Jorge and Valentino. In that scenario, Valentino could just cruise around the track at 30 mph and he'd still win (so long as everyone behind him stayed behind him). My point is that not only would I turn off the set and get on with my day but (in that scenario where everyone deferred to the two contenders and literally stayed behind them) Jorge loses and might as well go hit the showers rather than complete the race. I don't pretend to know what will really happen, but Lorenzo's only hope is MM if every other rider is going to let Valentino pass without incident or any real competition. Because ,if JL can take first, you know MM is not going to willingly let VR take second - and if that is the case, JL wins. All I want is everyone to go out and race their hardest, screw worrying about who's a contender. But, I believe we're not really going to see that. That's what MM tried to give us last week and he was crucified by fans, race direction and FIM. Message was heard by all loud and clear: get out of the way of the contenders. I still do not understand those who believe MM did wrong. They say "why didn't he accelerate away and leave Rossi?" I dunno, why didn't Rossi, when he passed MM, accelerate away and leave MM? Why does that argument work for one but not the other? If the presumption is that MM is that much better than VR, then VR should have just taken a back seat and enjoyed his ride into 4th. Anyway, I hope it's not the downer I fear it is going to be. I'd love to see an honest race where 20-some-odd racers get out there and have balls out from start to finish. That's all I want and whoever wins it then, wins it: fair and square.
More interesting rumors... http://m.autoevolution.com/yamaha-r...of-his-attitude-in-the-rossi-case-101409.html
Wow. That's got to be a really weird dynamic. Assume all of it is true for a moment (and I do have my doubts as to the veracity of the story, but let's run with it for a moment...) Yamaha would get rid of arguably the best rider they have, and the future of their team, for a rider that is aging and close to retirement (only VR knows how close, but you'd think it was closer than JL's retirement). Also, I understand JL is a bit of a <insert your favorite negative noun>, but he rolls off a track after having raced to second in the hottest race of the year. He's severely dehydrated (so he stated in the press conference), and then he's made to wait sitting in his stinking leathers *for an hour* and people are surprised that he 1) left the podium early and did not drink any champagne and 2) had a bit of a negative attitude during press conference? I think when God was handing out compassion probably JL wandered out of line and got lost. But I don't agree with criticizing him for that afternoon. Was it good for him, Yamaha or Rossi? No. But give the guy a break (just for that afternoon mind you) due to context. But, whatever. If true I think Yamaha will be making a major mistake. But that's ok. After this year I think I'll be a Repsol fan Go Dani!!!
^^^^^ I don't think "having a bit of an attitude" quite covers it, lol. I mean Lorenzo just crucified Rossi, and yes they're fighting for the same title and Jorge was tired and frustrated after the race, but they both race for the same manufacturer at the end of the day. If I was Lin Jarvis I would have been pissed too. As I mentioned, Pedrosa's remarks were much more reasonable and measured and he works for Honda. I find it hard to believe that Lorenzo had all the facts at the time or had seen all the angles from the footage or he wouldn't have made the comments that he did....or maybe he would have, who knows. Well, I guess we've beat this horse into the ground....