Kath this is perfect for you...

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  1. Old808

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    Interesting stuff, Mike. It sounds like an explanation for why a bike can lay darkies when the tire is not visibly spinning. Right?
     
  2. Old808

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    Yup, I remember that. It sounded like a religious experience. :)
     
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    Hello Papa,



    I believe darkies come from tread and caseing squirm and from the tread becomeing unkeyed with the road surface. This results in a less than one to one wheel rotation to forward motion ratio. For example; A six foot circumference tire rotates ten times but only covers fifty-six feet.



    I remember reading years ago that a tire in this state, slipping but not spinning freely, can generate more forward thrust than one that is totally keyed. Part of it is the increase in revolutions is greater than the lost efficiency per revolution. The other part is the loss of efficiency is less than expected, because the raised points of the roadsurface plowing through the tread rubber is also an energy transfer.
     
  4. Old808

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    I think I need to read that a few times. :)
     
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    I believe that "man" always walked up right, so where does that put me? :roll:





    In my opinion narrow minded and highly emotional "scientists" push the 'evolution' thing when what is truly known actually goes in opposition to it. I see lots of opinions being used as facts and that is just wrong no matter where it is. There is just way too much to go into on a BBS that I won't even try.



    To those that claim the Bible says this and the Bible says that I say that the details of creation aren't expressed and we will not know 100% the truth while on this Earth.



    Those that are willing to learn the truth can see it for what it is and those with a narrow mind will call people names instead of talking facts. In other words, a fact is a fact and an interpretation of a fact is an opinion until it can be tested and proved correct or wrong. To date evolution can not be proved to have ever actually occurring. Anyone willing can find just about all they want in libraries and on the internet. Use your free will to decide for yourself.
     
  6. Gavin

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    I believe that "man" always walked up right, so where does that put me? :roll:





    In my opinion narrow minded and highly emotional "scientists" push the 'evolution' thing when what is truly known actually goes in opposition to it. I see lots of opinions being used as facts and that is just wrong no matter where it is. There is just way too much to go into on a BBS that I won't even try.



    To those that claim the Bible says this and the Bible says that I say that the details of creation aren't expressed and we will not know 100% the truth while on this Earth.[/quote]



    Well said :)

    This all comes from vertical or horz headlights?

    what can be said about people who like the Power Ranger looking headlight on the 05-06 GSXR's?
     
  7. wpasicznyk

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    Not so much about the "no-crashing" part (because my brain tells me I definitely have what it takes to crash 160 hp),



    ROTFLMAO



    Kath,



    With the view of Sigmund Freud I could explain why you like the vertical headlights and I like the horizontal ones (BTW I like the round(ed) ones better too) Is that enough fuel for the fire??? :wink:





    Per the feeling of this or that happening and people going slow. Some of my experiences tell me that when you are going fast enough, or faster, then the settings make sense or you ask why did I do that to the suspension? Someone who is only beginning to ride near the limit of a vehicle hasn?t yet learned what to feel and the feedback from the motorcycle is different. Or is it?



    One time, and only one time, I went through the double apex at Pocono East (T6 & T7) where I was carrying enough speed that I was dragging my knee, the bike is laying on my knee (really), my toe is dragging on the track, the foot peg is dragging on the track and I felt if I stuck out my elbow out it would be on the track too. When I got home and washed the bike I found a section of the body work that looked like someone ground the paint off right by the engine cases and thought ?who did that?? Only to realize later that it too was dragged on the ground. All of this was on a 100% stock 1999 R1 in 1999 on Dunlop D207GPs (this is one of two reasons I no longer I have the stock suspension). When I was going through the turn the bike felt different as the motorcycle was leaned over and I was on the edge of the tire. I had turned in and was on the gas and the line I was on was to put me to the edge of the track if not in the grass (I didn?t know at the moment) and I felt if I gave it more throttle I?d run off the track and if I closed the throttle I?d run off the track. So I kept the throttle where it was and just hoped I wouldn?t run out of asphalt and just as I reached the edge of the track (or so I believe) the motorcycle started to ?come back? to the center of the track. Boy was I anxious while waiting that one out. I?ve said before (I learned this from driving cars on dirt) that when you are truly going fast the vehicle will tell you what it wants to do versus you telling the vehicle what to do and this was one of those times where I was committed (or is that I should be committed :D ) by what I did at turn in. I feel I got the turn perfect for the suspension I was on and that?s the only time I feel I have ever ridden any corner, anywhere, near perfect. I learned something then and am yet to repeat a feeling like that one. I was likely sliding or slipping the tires ever so slightly but not obvious enough to be a real ?slide? or sideways. It could be that because the motorcycle was leaned over more than [45?] the steering felt different and it was the first time I experienced that. I don?t know. (Yes Kath you read that correctly, I don?t know why).



    In other words, we only ask the motorcycle to do things. It with the tires chooses to do it or not.



    Does this make sense? I hope so.
     
  8. Desmo46

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    Hello Walt,



    If you include the whole paragragh, instead of just snipping out one sentence, it seems obvious it is really intended to be a humorous approach to people getting wound up over vertical and horizontal headlights, which is a matter of taste, not fact. It is also not an opinion on evolution. As you said you "believe" man always walked upright. None of us really know at this point. If a name like "Zigmund von Porchenfuss" and a title like "Verticalli y Iluminati" are taken seriously then the world is getting way to touchy.



    I'm sorry that it offended you.
     
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    Mike,



    You didn't offend me. That's how I took it. It seems I didn't do a good enough job trying to be funny. My bad. :oops:
     
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    Gavin,



    Those that like the power ranger look are obviously devil worshippers, inquistion revivalists, New agers, Republicans, Commie pinkos, Democrats (the same thing to some republicans) or Klu Kluckers. Did I leave anyone out? Oh yeah, Neanderthals, but I have always pulled for them. Anyone that can thrive in ice age europe deserves some respect.



    I will be verrrry careful opening packages for the next few weeks. :) :) :) :) :)
     
  11. kath

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    I quite liked the "Porchenfuss" bit...especially when the good doctor decided to name his white paper in Italian! :lol: :lol: !



    Walter, at least we now know that foreign languages and etymology are not your field! :wink: ! No matter because later, in a redeemingly well chosen phrase you write:







    once again, nested in that paragraph was a shining little kernel of truth...I think we're two for two now! Only thing is that coming from a different philosophical standpoint, I would rearrange the same idea in these terms: that we (humans) still have to tell the machine what to do, it's just a matter of whether we listened to the machine first!



    Kath



    p.s. Papa, indeed it was religious!!!



    p.p.s. Walter, I don't think Freud rode a motorcycle...let's leave him out of it! :p :lol:
     
  12. wpasicznyk

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    Kath,



    I feel Freud would call us nuts.
     
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    P.S. perhaps I should have added:



    left out again. :(





    :wink:
     
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    That?s sort of the same thing. No? Perhaps a better way to put it may be; the motorcycle isn?t necessarily willing to do everything you (we/I) ask of it.
     
  15. kath

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    yeah, like I said, same idea, different phrasing...and even though my philosophy is different, your phrasing was better :D
     
  16. wpasicznyk

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    I don't feel my phrasing is better. Just different. Everyone doesn't understand the same thing in exactly the same way and to reach everyone the same concept needs to be expressed differently depending on the audience.
     
  17. Gavin

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    I'm glad none of my bikes even have headlights right now :D
     
  18. Old808

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    I have zero idea what is being discussed in here. :D
     
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    Hey Papa,



    Neither do we :D
     
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    on choosing the 1098, "It's so easy...a caveman could do it." :lol:
     

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