Towing with a small car?

Discussion in 'STT General Discussion' started by billmusilli, May 22, 2007.

  1. billmusilli

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    Who is doing it? I tow the bike to the track with my Expedition now,
    but it costs more to put gas in the truck than the track day itself.
    My other car is a Civic. Is anyone towing with a car this small?

    The Trailer weighs 300lbs and the bike is an 02 sv650.
     
  2. John.Crowell

    John.Crowell Rides with no training wheels

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    0
    Bill, I use a VW Jetta TDI Wagon to tow a 4x8 open trailer. I have done this the last couple years without issue. I get ~40mpg towing, diesel's rule.

    In regards to your Civic, what does the manual say for towing capacity, if any. Definitely add a trans cooler if it is an auto.


    John
     
  3. billmusilli

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Manual didn't list towing capacity.
    I figure the bike and trailer together weigh as much as 4 200lbs guys
     
  4. John.Crowell

    John.Crowell Rides with no training wheels

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    0
    I looked and late 90's Civics show 1000lb towing capacity, but I cannot find any numbers for newer ones....



    John
     
  5. Jason.Lopez

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2007
    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    Mary was pulling her R6 with a dodge Neon for several years. Hell might still be doing it that way as far as I know but as long as you don't load it down to much I'd say you'll be alright.
     
  6. billmusilli

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks guys.
    Anyone want to buy a used truck???

    It gets 15 MPG :shock:
     
  7. billmusilli

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    Here's what the manual says
    This vehicle is not designed for towing. Doing so may void your warranty.

    It's got 98,000 miles on it, I don't think the warranty will matter.
    I found hitches made for it so someone must be towing with them.

    The Expedition is still for sale.
     
  8. John.Crowell

    John.Crowell Rides with no training wheels

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Messages:
    128
    Likes Received:
    0
    The crazy Europeans tow with anything. You should be fine if you take it easy and like I said add a trans cooler if it is an automatic.


    John
     
  9. MCSC5

    MCSC5 n00b

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2006
    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    0
    I used to tow a 17ft. fiberglas boat w/90hp outboard and galvanized trailer with a VW GTI. That included launches and retrievals. Worked fine. But, just like anything else...it all depends.
     
  10. 955i

    955i n00b

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    I tow my daytona 955i and 250lbs 'port-a-chopper' trailer with my '06 4 door civic 1.8 vtec at 80mph all day, along with a trunk full of gear, tools, spare tires, generator; change to 4th up the hills around the smokey mt range and flat get 30mpg!

    I think that both the trailer and bike together are very low profile and aerodynamic, which contributes to good gas milage.....i'll refrain and hold my tongue when it comes to the subject of a bigger is better' society that we Americans have to have...
     
  11. aosga

    aosga n00b

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2007
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've towed my 06' Kawasaki 636 with my 15 year old Miata (1.6L engine). No problems at all. It's a manual transmission so I don't have to worry about torque converter slip but for an automatic car, just lock it in a lower gear. Cargo capacity on my car is 400 or so pounds and I waaaay exceed that.

    Adam O.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Grape

    Grape n00b

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    0
    I tow my R6 with a 4cyl Fusion. Gets about 26mpg under normal driving conditions(some freeway) and about 20mpg when towing. Only downshifts a gear when going up hills. No problems heating up so far this year, temps stay the same as when not towing anything. I use a class I hitch and a small trailer. I have used an aluminum trailer to tow two bikes with it once, had to shift the bikes back a bit to keep the tounge weight down, but she did just fine (this trailer did not have a ramp that folded up at the rear to create a lot of wind drag, ramps stow on the underside of the trailer (that helped out a bit).
     
  13. billmusilli

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks guys. The hitches run about 100 bucks,
    I'll save that in June (I'm doing Grattan and Gingerman)
    I'm going to try and pick up a hitch this weekend.
     
  14. jdunphy11

    jdunphy11 n00b

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2006
    Messages:
    163
    Likes Received:
    0
    Get a Draw Tite - very easy to install > I did with my Integra ( glorified civic) Towed My ZRX on a 4x8 Harbor Freight Trailer from Columbus to GA , easy 80 mph cruise , AC on 30 MPG . Didnt even have to downshift a gear . Honda 4 cylinder VTEC's are the best motors going.

    I gave the car to my son , I now use a 4 cyl Frontier , I cruise @ about 70-75 with it , get an easy 24 mpg.
    Just make sure when you place the bike the tonque weight should be about 10-15 of your total weight . SO if you trailer and bike weigh 800 Lbs then 80-120 should be on the tongue. I used a batroom scales to get that right.
    http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarticles/129_0607_trailer_towing/
     
  15. billmusilli

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    I used a batroom scales to get that right.

    I did the same thing yesterday, 55 lbs at the tongue

    got the Draw Tite online I'll have it hooked up for Grattan this weekend
     
  16. wpasicznyk

    wpasicznyk n00b

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2006
    Messages:
    483
    Likes Received:
    0
  17. Michele

    Michele n00b

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2005
    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    0
    Troy and I use to haul a SV650 and Ducati 750SS tools, gear, stands, camping gear, tires and 5 cans of gas in a 6x12 enclosed trailer behind a Kia Sportage. Put 36000 in one season. Didn't go much over 60 (unless we had a tail wind and a down hill grade). :D
     
  18. billmusilli

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's done. I leave fopr Grattan tonight. Thanks everyone.
    [​IMG]
     
  19. BEEAH

    BEEAH n00b

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2007
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    I tow with an 02 Jetta TDI. Trailer is about 500 lbs and both bikes I would put around 430 wet? No power issues and I still get 30+ mpg.

    www.tdiclub.com

    These cars kick ass, mine is not stock.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. billmusilli

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2005
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    Beeah,

    You guys were pitted next to me last weekend.
    The first trip with the civic went well, except, on the way home
    in all the rain my trailer lights shorted out. It was not a good time not to have lights behind me. :shock:
     

Share This Page