Turn 5 at Barber

All depends on whats in front of you..... You can pass on the inside and outside there however pending on the track and traffic tread with care....


The Entrance line is like the standard Apex of any turn.. However the exit can be based on preference...

 

I hate that bump if you exit inside on the left! It comes right at a shift point and gets the front end light.

 

And I hate the snakes on a 1000 on a hot day..... I always spin it up there and do the same on the bump.... Sometimes its worth riding the inside the whole time but you kill your times doing it...

 

Double apex T5.

 

The other problem exiting on the inside is that so many people come out of that turn and immediately head for the left side of the track. I am finding that it is a lot easier to pass going to the outside or up the middle. I think T5 is a fun challenge.

 

I used to always keep it tight on exit, making the kink/6 a table top. After being told not to do that and keep it wide out on exit, I was actually sliding the rear. Something I don't feel too often and I don't like to feel. From there on I was a bit easier on the gas and worked harder to get the bike upright and never had the issue again. But yeah, so many lines for 5, especially if there is traffic.

 

This approach works better with a
Liter bike than a 600, but it is my preference
Also

 

That is the approach I use when on a liter bike or a 600.

 

The double apex approach involves early apexing T5 and trailing the brakes all the way to the apex. You then "diamond" the corner and start your drive out and head for the next apex of the corner. The reason that this works better with a liter bike is because you lose some of the corner speed by making a diamond of the corner and of course you will get better drive out with a liter bike than with a 600. This method would also allow you to overtake and inside pass someone that brakes deep into the corner and then squares it off. Another point in this is that this method somewhat "blocks" the late breaker's exit after he starts to get back on the gas.

 

Yep!

 

Turn 5 is supposed to be a slow corner. You'll not gain much time at all trying to go through 'slow' corners 'fast'. The more important part is getting a good drive out of 5 because it leads to a straight away.

Like what has been mentioned, I like to enter T5 early...get the bike turned and get the bike stood up and on the gas as soon as possible. I sometimes drift all the way out to the right edge of the track exiting T5 so I can stay hard on the gas.

This is assuming you have clear track.

My $.02

 

I want someone to show me this next year. Turn 5 is my nemisis becaused I crashed there my first weekend on my literbike 2 years ago and have never gotten over it.

 

Jason said the same thing as Derrick. T5 is a slow corner and that sometimes you just have to go slow to go fast. You want to get a good entry so that you can stick the exit.

 

I feel most comfortable taking a wide entrance (when trafic allows) and staying tight to the curbing and double apexing it. I get on the gas early, roll the throttle to 100% and keep it there (on a 600). I stay a good 10-15ft from the right side curbing and kinda like the bumps. :noidea:

 

As I stated earlier, if you diamond that corner, You really can get the bike stood up a lot sooner and back on the gas. You really need to be able to trail brake most, if not all the way to the corner though to be able to maximize that approach