So what would YOU recommend, that you have both personally built, wrenched on, and ridden? Oh wait, you don't ride. Nevermind. t
Doesn't matter.. both are far more capable then ANYONE we ride with.. its all between the ears that worked out well in WSS
I love my zx6r, and I'm sure the 636 is going to be pretty awesome, but it'll probably still lack the low end torque. I'd love to try the Triumph. When and if I do, I'm pretty sure I'll be switching teams.
http://youtu.be/ZW-UrNpvjVo i know this is an older vid, but hope it will help. I'm sure both have made a lot of improvments
I think the "get a 600 because its lighter" comments are based on older bikes. There might be 13 lbs difference in 2013 models but look at the difference in an 04 gsxr 1000 and a 600...90lbs!
90 lb's? My '04 1000 is only 10 lb's heavier than my '06 750 (dry) and it definitely feels that marginal of a difference. I use my 750 for track only and it is perfect in my opinion. I've debated using my 1000 as a track bike since it's got extremely low miles and is a great platform for myself to enter the track world on a 1000. However, since I plan on entering CCS next year I will most likely buy a spare 600 motor and swap that into the 750 instead (I assume I can do that since it's the same chassis... maybe someone can clarify?). You don't want to get ahead of your skills and I think the extra speed can definitely distract you from focusing on and improving particular skills that won't leave as much room for error if you get it wrong on a 1000.
And what does that have to do with anything?? That is like saying you shouldnt be an instructor because you are not very fast. (BTW, I was a national number MXer back in the '70s) I didn't say the Triumph wasn't a good bike. I questioned the validity of the remark,"675R trumps the Kawk all day long.... " when the commenter has no idea what the 636 has to offer. As far as my recommendation...can't make one...especially about a bike that hasn't hit the track yet.
Can't we all just get along? Such a whirlwind of thoughts and ideas. I still love my 250 Aprilia Cup bike the best. However, my learning curve on the BMW has been a long and difficult one. Still more comfortable on the smaller bikes, however the excitement and rush of adrenalin is incredible riding the big bike. As soon as I can better my best time on a 250 at Barber, I will be staying on the 1000. See you the spring.
T-Town we'll have to train to some STT events next year, I'm so over rolling Solo! All my buddies that have sportbikes just get them to look kool but are afraid to put them on the track. Punk Bi*@hes!! hahaha
Hmmm the 636 4 has been around for a few years as has the 675 3. As fr as the 2013 models are concerned time will tell. uhhhh uh ah uhhah brat patty hehehuhhh huh yah best brat patty uhhh huh
New zx6r should be pretty stout. Stock motor 09-12 zx6r's put down great power, the mid range is great (the 675 obviously wins here) but past 8k rpms the zx6r opens up & quick. Handling is great on them and should be better for the 13 model with the geometry adjustments. It's just a shame that Kawi doesn't do much in racing other than Asian & wsbk/wss but that's what a shit economy does to companies. Ill stick to the Kawi but I'd be lying if I didn't say the new 675r didn't catch my eye, but then I think about British replacement parts..
Im gonna throw a wrench in this discussion..... What about the persons weight?? I am not talking 120-150 but 120-250? Its a big difference and can also match up a bike for a person better... Especially someone that has a Fat Arse like me.... I was always faster on my GSX-R 600 at certain tracks until this year.. Then I guess after 2 years getting the 1000 dialed in I was finally able to beat my 600 times at Barber , CMP and Tally.. Yes your braking markers are way off (Thanks TDub for the heads up 2 years ago) but the new 1000's these days turn in like 600's... I say to each his own but after this year I decided to keep my 1000 after considering a R6 for the last 2 years...
While I ride a literbike and love it, I can understand how a 600 will make you a better rider. I get to cheat, because I can squirt out of a corner and put a smokin on a 600 at the exit..but, good 600 riders will catch back up, outbrake me and have much better corner speed as their bikes are lighter, easier to brake and turn in. 600 riders have to learn to keep their momentum up, and learn better throttle, brake and shift control than literbike riders. Getting really good on a 600 (or even an in-between 750) will make you a better rider. Really depends on what you want. If you are starting out, buy you a 600 and rag the crap out of it (maybe crash a few times along the way) and then move up to a literbike, and I'll guaranty you'll outrun those of us who started out on literbikes only... Regardless, IT'S ALL FUN...
I've taken my weight into consideration, too. I'm easily 250lbs with gear on. I was shopping for a GSX-R750 as my reasoning was that with my weight the extra power essentially canceled itself out to make the overall equation more like the average 180lb rider on a 600. I ended up with a GSX-R600 anyway because of the smokin' deal I found.
I was quoting 2 popular older bikes from the same year. Isnt that what the op was asking? Comparing 2 new bikes of the same year?