Can I get another weekend out of these?

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  1. jackshakes

    jackshakes Rides with no training wheels

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    I'm running Supercorsa SP tires. I've reached the wear bar on the right side of both the front and the rear. The middle of both sides has plenty left until the wear bar, and on the left of the tire there's a tiny bit to go before hitting the wear bar.

    The bike has been mostly at Barber, so I assume that's why the right side is worn down more.

    Can I get another weekend out of these (slower Intermediate pace) or should i go ahead and replace them now?
     
  2. JBowen33

    JBowen33 Rides with no training wheels

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    Well it depends on a lot of factors to be honest. Most people will say when in doubt replace. I agree with that to a point. The major factor for me is will the tire last the weekend. I am not a fan of switching tires at the track. Especially because I prefer Pirelli. I like to show up and know I'm ready to go. I've seen to many people get disappointed because they have to buy a tire brand at the track they really don't want but need to in order to finish their weekend or they miss their morning sessions waiting to get their tires swapped out.

    Some factors include:

    Riding style
    Type of tarmac the track has.
    Is the track right or left hand turn dominant
    What bike you have
    Suspension set up
    How you are on the throttle
    Tire pressures
    Outside/track temp

    So this being said you will get pletty of opinions on here but it comes down to what YOUR preference is and how comfortable you feel with the tires based upon your set up, confidence as a rider and skill level.


    Oh pics would help too! Lol
     
  3. newleaf

    newleaf What's an apex?

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    if you're asking, get new tires. or take offs.
     
  4. Whitney Arnold

    Whitney Arnold Run it wide. The grass is a safe place.

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    Best Answer: "I don't know, Can You get another weekend out of them?"
     
  5. Smalls

    Smalls What's an apex?
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    If there is any doubt, then there is no doubt.......weigh the price of new tires to bike repair and medical cost if you crash because of them....
     
  6. flylikechris

    flylikechris Wait, how tall are you?

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    For me the lack of confidence in my tires is a mental block.
     
  7. ekraft84

    ekraft84 What's an apex?

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    New tires.
     
  8. IL8APEX

    IL8APEX STT Northern *****er
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    Better to have new tires mounted before you get told at Tech Inspection...

    -T
     
  9. finny47

    finny47 Rides with no training wheels

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    This is why I like to have spare rims, especially for the rear. If I have a tire that is questionable for a ENTIRE weekend, I start with a fresh one for the day. At lunch time, after track is no longer green, I'll switch back to the half worn tire/rim and use it for the afternoon sessions.
     
  10. design-engine

    design-engine What's an apex?

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    I found the edge of tire ware by crashing.
     
  11. tnskydivr

    tnskydivr Shut up and Jump!
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    We had an intermediate student show up at tech this weekend at CMP with a front that was worn so bad, he had cord showing....seemed shocked when we told him 'no'.....
     
  12. nicotine

    nicotine Rides with no training wheels

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    If you're constantly running tracks with mostly right handers (ACC north, hello), it's worth it to pay the tire guys to flip your tires halfway through the weekend.
     
  13. Zaph

    Zaph Mmmm fish n chips

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    So, on the edge of the tire, down to the wear bars, or down to the bottom of the tread? (on supercorsa SC's)

    I've seen plenty of people (who are faster than me) use them right down to the bottom of the tread without issue. I may be wasting rubber by changing them when I hit the wear bar.

    I'm not going for the "if you have to ask, it's time" saying. Just tell us when traction begins to significantly fall off.

    Edit: I flip my Pirelli SC's after 2 track days. Then I get one more on the other side. But I'm thinking I could get 2 more on the other side, and I'm tossing tires early.
     
  14. jackshakes

    jackshakes Rides with no training wheels

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    I hear that. I went ahead and ordered another set of SPs so I could at least take them with me to the track if I decide not to go ahead and mount them ahead of time. That way I can just get tire tech to mount them.

    I was debating switching to the SC's and runnign warmers, but got a really good deal on another set of SPs ($280) so I had to go with them again.

    pics in next post
     
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    jackshakes Rides with no training wheels

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    I've read someone else saying it was ok to do this, but was still worried about trying it, ha. It would make sense since the tires are more worn on the right and barber has a lot of sustained right hand turns...

    I'm not that hard on the throttle and fairly slow comparatively speaking (just moved up to intermediate and will likely be back of the pack for a bit). So I'm feeling like I'd be ok going another weekend on these. But since I have another set on the way i may just go ahead and mount them ... it's just the difference of a weekend i guess.

    Here are some photos for good measure:

    Front
    Left side looks ok, but right side is touching the wear bar:

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    Rear

    Right side of rear is almost touching the wear bar on the outside...

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    Left side is good (aside from that nice tearing from NCM the other week)

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  16. Zaph

    Zaph Mmmm fish n chips

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    It's worth adding that this is ok with Pirelli but a bad idea with Dunlop. Something about how the internal plies are put together in a Dunlop makes them more likely to delaminate when run backwards.

    And all these tires suck in wet weather, so it's not like a directional tread pattern is going to matter for water drainage.
     
  17. JBowen33

    JBowen33 Rides with no training wheels

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    If you are just plan on running the bike on the track try the Pirelli super bike pros.... Awesome tires no warmers needed and they last forever. I'm on my second weekend with them on a 1000 at a mid A pace and still have 2-3 weekends left on the rear.
     
  18. tnskydivr

    tnskydivr Shut up and Jump!
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    Dunlop has changed their race slicks so that they are now bi-directional. Looking at those pics, I'd think if flipped they might be ok depending on the track...
     
  19. CBay2857

    CBay2857 Rides with no training wheels

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    I would keep in mind that you running an SP not an SC. SP is a street tire and will wear great but is not a tire I personally would want to run at an I pace. As other people have said, confidence in the tires is huge. I like my equipment (tires, suspension etc.) to be better than I am at using it.
     
  20. Zaph

    Zaph Mmmm fish n chips

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    Do you know which ones specifically? I know the street Q3's and older Q2's still can't.

    Rumor has it that these are basically the same compound as SP street tires just without a tread pattern. Lots of people I know still use the SP's because their stick is better than other street tires, but they last a long time at the track. Like double the life of the SC.
     

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