laptimer told me :29.13 but i know there is easily a second or two by getting on & staying on the gas earlier on the way to the bus stop & then again heading up to the straight.. thats where my lack of knowledge of the track shows the most (to me anyhow) i can't complain though & i must say i found a new favorite track :thumb: thank you though, its fun learning new stuff & it doesn't seem easy to learn by any means