Yeah, I'm kinda worried about that. Been thinking..If I hit the rev limiter with stock gearing, I wonder how it's going to be with -1 +2...
Dude, that will not work. You can't run -1/+2 on a 600cc at Road Atlanta if you are running a good pace. I mean, you can...but you will tap out WAY before T9 when running at speed. Then you will be pissed off, bouncing off the rev limiter, while other people just drive around you.
On a 1k, I try to open up the radius of T9 as much as possible. I will start wide, turn in, then drift out a lil bit. Then get down the hill and grab a handful while screaming "brakes don't fail me now!!!". ound:
For reference, that -1/+2 on your R6 is 15/47. On my R6 at Road Atlanta, I run 15/42. But now that i think about it, i think you should run the -1/+2. It will make for good entertainment when i suck your paint off on the back straightaway while you are stuck on the rev limiter.
:blah: ound: Im not too concerned with the straightaways or even the corners really, it is the braking part im kinda concerned about. but all I can do is try it and see what happens.
I will be there and we will have to use one of the three drag strips, on any single lap and race against my 1000cc. I love to watch the S1000RR and ZX10 pull me. Crappy little Honda. I guess I will use my "big boy" fuel map and run some 112 octane!
I am bringing my new RSV4 and it is down on HP/top end to the ZX and BMW also. I am sure they will pull me too. I hope to be able to make it up in other areas.
I have run -1/+2 at RA and that is exactly what happens...I am in 6th by the time I get to T8. Does it make sense to go back to stock front and rear or is that why you go to a 42 on the rear (DUH)?
so here's a ????? What exactly are the CRs looking for in the eval for I? I'm just now thinking about asking for one, but it would be nice to know what the expectations of me are to have an idea of whether i need to hold off or not.
We look for consistency in lines, passing ability/decision making, smoothness in throttle/braking/line adjustment, body position, track awareness, and to an extent pace of laps. Others may chime in on other things they look for, but this is what I am looking for when evaluating someone. :thumb:
15/42 (what i run on the R6) is very close to the stock ratio. Basically, I am -1/-3 from stock. -1/-2.7 would be identical to stock. So essentially, I am 0/+0.3 from stock, if that makes sense. I use that because it gives me less rotational mass front and rear. I can run smaller sprockets, while still retaining the stock gear ratio. If i were you, i would go back to stock for sure. Trust me, you will be in for an aggravating weekend if you don't. Not only because of the back straight, but because it will put you in between gears in other sections. The stock ratio works good at Road Atlanta on a 600cc.
Everything Mike said ^^^^^^^ and I also tell folks to just ride at their "normal"pace, don't try and see if you can do a personal best lap for the eval. We would all rather see smooth and consistent and predictable than faster and erratic.
Im with Mike. Obviously, in the interest of safety, you should be running lap times that are on par with the lap times of the Intermediate group. Having the groups run as close as possible to similar lap times is a part of making them safer. BUT...lap times are only one piece of the puzzle. And to be honest, they aren't the most important piece. Like Mike said, being smooth on the bike, good throttle/brake transitions, wise decisions and good track awareness are all part of it. We make sure you are consistent. We always say "it is the responsibility of the passing rider to make a clean pass". Well, how clean somebody can pass you is largely dictated to how smooth and predictable you are. In other words, you can be off the average pace of a particular group, and as long as you are smooth and predictable...it will be ok. The faster riders will get around you. But if you are erratic and inconsistent, you are unpredictable and therefore, hard to pass. And at track days, "hard to pass" is not a good characteristic. That is why speed is not the most important factor. Being smooth, consistent and predictable are the most important factors. If somebody is trying to go fast, as in trying to "prove" they need a bump based upon speed, it shows. Just ride your ride.
I have done quite a few days at RA and I try to remember to switch out the 45 with the 43, but I just ordered a 42. You really do get eaten up on the back straight with short gearing.
Exactly! This is why I frankly prefer to evaluate a rider without them knowing I'm back there, etc. You get a much more accurate evaluation this way since sometimes there are those riders that are out to nail a fast lap, etc. while being evaluated.
Ah ok, I misunderstood your question. I thought you were saying you ran -1/+2 and was asking if it made sense to go back to stock. My bad. If i were you, i would just run the 42. Obviously every bike is a lil different, as is every rider. What works for some might not work for others. I have a really strong build on my R6 and it is tuned for U4,4/MR12. If i run a gearing taller than stock, even by just 1 tooth in the rear, I will max it out.
