where are the sideline acc pics

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  1. JSchulte

    JSchulte Rides with no training wheels

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    My friends enjoy your photography, this quickly became a meme on my local forum implying I was scoping for the restroom before track time. That's worded in the nice way.

    I'm the clueless one whom very well may have been doing such :lmao:.

    http://i767.photobucket.com/albums/xx313/repsol600/CC4E6D2B-BCA5-40E6-8CB1-896BCF82ECBE.jpg

    Thanks Mel! :jester:
     
  2. Gundamnitpete

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    Hi Mel, Do you have any of me? I'd be in white Rev'It leathers with a black shoei on, riding an OrangeRed Kawasaki Z1000 with blue tape on the lights and mirrors. I was riding in the I group if that helps.
     
  3. EvIL TwIn

    EvIL TwIn Entertainment Guru

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    They were lost unfortunately.
     
  4. PhotobyMel

    PhotobyMel n00b

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    I will check later today when I get home. I didn't shoot too much, but I have more pics that I posted on fb.
     
  5. Gundamnitpete

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  6. PhotobyMel

    PhotobyMel n00b

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    I looked through my folder on my pc and couldn't spot any.. sorry :( I really didn't shoot much.
     
  7. BigCountry1125

    BigCountry1125 "Lovings"

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    There was a letter posted in their trailer from the recovery data company saying sorry they couldn't retrieve the list data. :-(



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  8. sammPD4075

    sammPD4075 Knows an apex

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  10. cdenley

    cdenley Rides with no training wheels

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    Anything of me? I was in "I" that weekend, and my bike had white wheels and less duct tape.
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  11. PhotobyMel

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    Will check when I get a chance, and add them to my fb page.. :)
     
  12. Ninjeff

    Ninjeff Trackday 101.

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    well.....
    that sucks. :(
     
  13. PhotobyMel

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    sorry, can't seem to find one.. maybe in some group shots, will post those some other time.. I only shot a few times, and focused on friends..
     
  14. sammPD4075

    sammPD4075 Knows an apex

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    u got pics of me so i guess that makes us friends :getdown:
     
  15. PhotobyMel

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    Haha I guess I have a ton of friends! Well I meant I focused a lot on those I know, and anyone else I photographed was just kind of around them.. like that green bike #219 is all over my hard drive worse than malware! :lmao:
     
  16. Squegee

    Squegee STT Staff
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    That #219 guy is fuggin everywhere... ;-) he gets around I've heard
     
  17. j_fuggin_t

    j_fuggin_t Track Addict

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    :hat: :thumb: :woot: :wheel:
     
  18. Ninjeff

    Ninjeff Trackday 101.

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    did anyone snap novice pics?
     
  19. SidelineSportsPhotography

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    Thank you for your patience - Hard Drive Update Below

    Hello All,

    First, I want to thank Joe from Electric Eye Images for his candid, honest, sympathetic and very fair letter. Joe, my absolute and most sincere thanks to you.

    On that note, I come here having spent $1,400 on three tiers of data recovery on Jake, our contract photographer's drive, all to no luck in recovering the photos.

    But what Venturenet, a top data recovery firm (Getty Images, Corbis, etc use them) found per the "lost" data was more disgusting than a corrupt HD and, figuratively, dug Jake out of a hole a bit, sort of. : )

    As you will see in the letter from Venturenet below, the drive was actually intentionally "securely formatted". The disgusting part is that this was provably not done by Jake. We know this as it was formatted by a windows machine, and Jake uses a Mac. We also know the time and date it was formatted, and where Jake, and his HD, were at the time.

    The drive was formatted at 8:31am on Saturday, May 31, while Jake was shooting the IMSA Tudor series at the Detroit Grand Prix. As Jake left directly from ABCC and the respective STT weekend to go Detroit for the GP, he had the HD with him and was using it to back up his work for our firm in Detroit.

    Well, to make this as short as possible, there are about 300 accredited media at this IndyCar/IMSA race. We are assigned spots to sit in the media center and Jake was assigned a spot. Jake set up his lap top and HD, and like about every other media member (literally), he left both in the media center on Thurs, Fri and Sat while he went out shooting. This is literally common practice. Well, upon returning one time, there was a women sitting in Jake's assigned spot. He asked her to move, and she said "No, I was here first." He denoted that the items there were his and that seats are assigned by the media department. She got pretty upset (there were no other seats left) and stormed off. As as we found out later, his HD was intentionally, securely formatted about 30 minutes later when he was out shooting.

    Venturenet was totally perplexed when they first called after looking at the drive, saying "All sectors on this drive are perfect. It's fine, it was simply formatted". I knew Jake hadn't formatted it, so I asked them to dig into when and what machine formatted it, to pinpoint when it happened and possibly who did it. Now of course, we have no proof the women in his reserved spot did this, but it makes the most sense and we fully know Jake didn't do it, due to the Windows vs Mac thing. Did I mention she was skype'ing with her boyfriend in jail (I didn't know that was possible), according the the photographers around her?

    Jake absolutely broke our agreement in not backing up at lunch and at the end of the day onto two separate drives, and for this I am still more than a bit upset and he has profusely apologized. But as this was purely malicious and intentional, I don't fault him nearly as much and frankly feel sorry for him. SSP put about $450 into his travel and hotels (He's from the Madison, WI area) and another chunk of change into paying him (which he has given back), and then there was the three tier, $1,400 data recovery (including overnight shipping).

    On top of this, both Jake and I feel terribly for letting you all down. Since we went digital in 2000, we've never had an issue of lost data, ever, until this time. SSP backs up to three drives each night, and separates the drives post event, in case of theft or fire. We've had many a drive fail, but never all of them, due to the redundancy.

    I would also like to clear up a few things. We are not "the highest bidder" or awarded events over financial payment. . We have worked, non-stop, with STT over 10 years now, all over the country. There exists no financial bidding for events by photographers within STT, as Joe or the other STT photographers will attest. This is a false assertion. Two, Autobahn CC, Road America, Blackhawk Farms, Mid Ohio, VIR, etc all charge vending fees and establish an official photographer. When we pay them, to make money on their property, they protect us as their vendors. Most of these tracks also require a statement/proof of insurance. We absolutely have been the "official" photographers of ABCC since about 1 years after it opened, and they do have a stake in our finances, but STT does not. We simply assist STT with whatever photo needs they have, whenever we can. When we started with STT, many events weren't even covered with photography and we took events to assist the then owners. DSLR's were still pricy as hell and not many digital photogs were out there, frankly. We were actually working as official event photographers for STT before ABCC was ever built.

    As the tracks are private property, they can control who photographs on them, just as the event organizers can. Just as you can't take a pro camera/lens into a concert, the stands at an NFL, NBA, MLB game, at Disney World, Great America, to a play or other public entertainment venues, etc, one cannot just assume they can shoot at a sports facility that is privately owned. Our concern, as the photographers contracted to the events we cover, as is that of the vast majority of pro photographers, and that of the tracks we vend with, is the person who meets one or more of the following categories:

    - Shooting in an area closed to the public

    - Shooting more than one or two bikes.

    - Coming just to the event just to photograph

    - Shoot photos of virtually all the bikes and to then distribute them

    I don't think anyone would think it ok to distribute food or drink to the masses at a pro sports venue, a concert or the Disney World example, and photography is just one more vending concession. I also agree with Joe from Electric Eye, and like him, we would not come into an event open to all photographers. The sales would be so divided it wouldn't be worth anyone's time or effort.

    Most don't realize that before we sell photo one, we are generally $1,250-1,750 in the hole. $500 vending fees are not out of the norm (they go as high as $2,500), we employ 1-2 outside staff making $15 per hour + and pay their travel (hotels, miles, food) to/from the event, often on planes. We buy insurance. We most often have $200-$1,200 in fuel to go in and return from an event, etc.

    When anyone does something outside of our agreements with STT and the respective track, hurting our revenue, braking the track and event rules, we simply ask them to stop. No different than Disney, the Unite Center, etc. We could call the track's respective security, which could result in ejection, but we try to handle it with a "sorry, you can't do this". Every time we enforce our rights with STT and the tracks we work at, we are the bad guys. Every time we have to stop shooting to make contact with these photographers, our photo variety and count totals drop, also costing us money.

    Please realize, when we see someone shooting, and I believe the other photographers do this, we rarely confront the person immediately. We watch to see how many sessions/groups they shoot, are they shooting 1-2 bikes/cars, or all. We generally contact Nick, Trevor, Richard etc, and ask if they are aware of the photographer in question. We look at the level of the camera gear, as well, and when the things add up as against the agreements, we ask them to stop, just as ABCC or another track would stop someone from setting up food distribution at the track. The fact that people distribute post event, which many pro photographers do anyways, makes no difference and frankly hurst the web based photographers more than us.

    In the end, we are truly sorry at the lost imagery. At the next successive ABCC STT event 8-9 days ago, we took $25 off our DVD cost as an offering of apology and denoted the issue at the riders meeting and in person, as well as posted the below letter in the trailer.

    Trust me, neither Jake, Leslie or myself wanted those photos lost and Jake simply did what many younger folks do took a short cut, not backing them up. He has learned a very damaging and expensive lesson.

    Thank your or your time and I very much apologize for the very long letter.

    Please find the the letter from Venturenet below.

    All the Best,


    Mike Stahlschmidt
    Sideline Sports Photography
     

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